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G'bye belly putter... Well, at least the anchored to the body part

#1 User is offline   billvill 

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:35 AM

Long putters to go belly up


THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. Golf's governing bodies, worried that players will turn to long putters as an advantage instead of a last resort, proposed a new rule Wednesday that would ban the putting stroke used by three of the past five major champions.
The Royal & Ancient Golf Club and the U.S. Golf Association said the rule would not outlaw belly putter or broom-handle putters, only the way they are currently used. The proposed rule would make it illegal for golfers to anchor the club while making a stroke and not take effect until 2016.
"More players are using it, and instructors are saying this is a more efficient way to putt because you don't have to control the whole stroke," USGA executive director Mike Davis said. "The game has been around for 600 years. Fundamentally, we don't think this is the right way to go."
Orville Moody won the 1989 U.S. Senior Open using a long putter that he held against his chest, allowing for a pendulum motion. Paul Azinger won the 2000 Sony Open with a putter that he pressed into his belly. Long putters began getting serious attention last year when Keegan Bradley became the first player to win a major with a belly putter at the PGA Championship. This year, Webb Simpson won the U.S. Open and Ernie Els won the British Open using belly putters.
"Our objective is to preserve the skill and challenge," R&A chief executive Peter Dawson said. "This rule is not performance related. This is about defining the game, defining what is a stroke."
The long putters are not being banned. The rule relates to the actual stroke, not the equipment. Players can use a broom putter as long as it is not anchored to the chest.
Davis and Dawson said the catalyst for the new rule was not who was winning tournaments, but the number of players switching to long putters.
Their research showed no more than four percent of golfers used the clubs for several years. It went to six percent in 2006, and then to 11 percent in 2011, with some PGA Tour events having as many as 20 percent of the players using the long clubs. There was no empirical data to suggest a long putter made golf easier. Carl Pettersson (No. 21) and Bradley (No. 27) were the only players among the top 30 in putting this year on the PGA Tour who used long putters.
"We don't think putting in an anchored way is easy. You have to learn how to do it," Dawson said. "But it takes one of the potential frailties out of the stroke ... We have to retain the skill and challenge inherent in golf."
The R&A and USGA will take comments for three months on the proposed rule before it is approved. Because the Rules of Golf are updated every four years, any ban on the anchored stroke would not take effect for another four years.
The PGA Tour, European Tour and LPGA Tour said it would evaluate the proposed rule with its players. The PGA Tour has a mandatory players meeting in San Diego at the end of January. The PGA of America, meanwhile, said it was concerned that such a ban would drive people from the game.
"As our mission is to grow the game ... we are asking them to seriously consider the impact this proposed ban may have on people's enjoyment of the game and the overall growth of the game," PGA president Ted Bishop said.
The decision figures to be divisive at the highest level.
Tim Clark of South Africa and Pettersson have used broom putters their entire careers, and they have suggested a new rule would affect their livelihoods.
Dawson said he was hopeful the players would understand the decision for the proposed ban on anchoring. Davis said potential lawsuits were never considered.
Tiger Woods is among those who have been outspoken about anchored putters, saying it takes away from the nerves in the hands in trying to make putts.
"I just believe that the art of putting is swinging the club and controlling nerves," Woods said Tuesday. "And having it as a fixed point, as I was saying all year, is something that's not in the traditions of the game. We swing all other 13 clubs. I think the putter should be the same."
Jack Nicklaus recalls when croquet-style putting was banned decades ago, and golf moved on. "They'll all learn to adjust," Nicklaus told Golf Channel. "Like anything else, they'll get used to it and get over it. ... We've had changes with balls, wood heads, groover, all kinds of changes. Players have adjusted to those and they'll adjust to this."
The proposal is for Rule 14-1(B) which reads, "In making a stroke, the player must not anchor the club, either 'directly' or by use of an 'anchor point.' "
To anchor the club directly is defined by players intentionally holding the club or the hand gripping the club in contact with any part of the body.


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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:35 AM

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I love it! It's totally an unfair advantage to anchor that thing to your body.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:36 AM

I heard this was coming. Good.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:37 AM

Everyone should struggle with putting like me.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:44 AM

View PostHankey, on 29 November 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Everyone should struggle with putting like me.

Like kicking field goals or bowling, or even playing goal. Success is 50% between your ears.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

Is it going to be banned on the senior tour?
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

View PostBadger Bob, on 29 November 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

Is it going to be banned on the senior tour?

I'm guessing that if the USGA and the R&A ban it, it will be golf wide.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:46 PM

View Postbillvill, on 29 November 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

I'm guessing that if the USGA and the R&A ban it, it will be golf wide.


Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. It's just that it began it's rise on the senior circuit. I was wondering if they'd ban it as well.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:50 PM

View PostBadger Bob, on 29 November 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. It's just that it began it's rise on the senior circuit. I was wondering if they'd ban it as well.

I think it got popular on the Senior Tour because the old guys didn't have to bend over. It got abused when the young guys figured out that they could get an advantage by anchoring the butt end to their body.

I just think it's embarrassing to use one.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:51 PM

Remember... they're not banning the use of the long putter... Just the stroke of it
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

View Postcoach bob, on 29 November 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

Remember... they're not banning the use of the long putter... Just the stroke of it

Just anchoring it to any part of the body, essentially rendering it useless. They'll all go back to regular putters.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:56 PM

View Postcoach bob, on 29 November 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

Remember... they're not banning the use of the long putter... Just the stroke of it


You gotta have the right stoke for the long putter. :whistling:
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:03 PM

View PostHankey, on 29 November 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Everyone should struggle with putting like me.


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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:12 PM

View PostJoePa, on 29 November 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

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We won't be confusing you for Ben Crenshaw anytime soon, Joe?
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:20 PM

View Postbillvill, on 29 November 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

We won't be confusing you for Ben Crenshaw anytime soon, Joe?


I putt pretty well on slow greens but I'm lost on the fast ones.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:23 PM

View PostJoePa, on 29 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I putt pretty well on slow greens but I'm lost on the fast ones.

Get a heavier putter.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:33 PM

View Postbillvill, on 29 November 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

Get a heavier putter.


I'll keep that in mind.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:58 AM

View PostJoePa, on 29 November 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I putt pretty well on slow greens but I'm lost on the fast ones.



I prefer faster greens because they are more apt to be consistant.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:24 AM

View Postcoach bob, on 30 November 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

I prefer faster greens because they are more apt to be consistant.

I don't really care either way as long as the practice green is representative of the rest of the course. Otherwise, at best, it's a complete waste of time. At worst, it screws up your whole day. I still say, superintendents are sadistic bastards.
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