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Two year old dies at Pgh Zoo

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:04 PM

No wonder I saw Channel 11's van at the zoo when I was going to work. We just saw these dogs a couple of weeks ago when we went to the zoo.

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What gets me is a 2 year old needs to be climbing up on the railings to fall in. Not to sound cynical, but where were the parents?

This post has been edited by Badger Bob: 05 November 2012 - 01:19 PM
Reason for edit: Changed age from 3 to 2. Initial reports were wrong. No biggie

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:46 PM

Sad sad story. Just heard that story a few minutes ago.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 05:48 PM

View PostFanSince74, on 04 November 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

No wonder I saw Channel 11's van at the zoo when I was going to work. We just saw these dogs a couple of weeks ago when we went to the zoo.

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What gets me is a 3 year old needs to be climbing up on the railings to fall in. Not to sound cynical, but where were the parents?

exactly. why wasnt his mother watching him?! It's sad the child had to die, you watch , they'll put the pack down now too.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:42 PM

View PostDingo, on 04 November 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

exactly. why wasnt his mother watching him?! It's sad the child had to die, you watch , they'll put the pack down now too.



He wriggled out of the mother's arms as she stood above the exhibit at a viewing area on a deck with railing. What I don't understand is why didn't the father leap down into that exhibit immediately to try and retrieve and/or protect the kid.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:48 PM

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“They were saying, ‘Get away. Stay away!’ It wasn’t one person, it was an entire group of people screaming,” DePasquale said. “Eventually the screams were heavily distressed. There was profanity.”



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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:52 PM

View PostBadger Bob, on 04 November 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

He wriggled out of the mother's arms as she stood above the exhibit at a viewing area on a deck with railing. What I don't understand is why didn't the father leap down into that exhibit immediately to try and retrieve and/or protect the kid.

seriously why didnt people jump in after him...news said it was several minutes before the dogs attacked, poor kid
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:05 PM

View PostDingo, on 04 November 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

seriously why didnt people jump in after him...news said it was several minutes before the dogs attacked, poor kid


Because people are weak minded and wait for "The authorities" to save them.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:11 PM

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Because people are weak minded and wait for "The authorities" to save them.



My wife just read a report that the father wasn't there when this happened. But somebody needed to take immediate action.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:26 PM

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

11 dogs, my S&W holds 12.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:17 AM

Obviously an extreme tragedy and I feel for those parents. And now the Zoo should be prepared for the big lawsuit. You know they'll be finding ways to point at the zoo for being negligent. Certainly this is a freak accident and a parent that wasn't thinking, but I'm sure the lawyers will be saying that there needed to be a better barrier than a 4 foot railing and netting designed to prevent people from throwing trash into the animal's containment.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:19 AM

View PostBadger Bob, on 05 November 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

Obviously an extreme tragedy and I feel for those parents. And now the Zoo should be prepared for the big lawsuit. You know they'll be finding ways to point at the zoo for being negligent.

The whole thing is just mind boggling. Why would you put your kid up there in the first place? Every time I see something like this I think of Michael Jackson dangling that kid out the window.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:22 AM

View Postbillvill, on 05 November 2012 - 07:19 AM, said:

The whole thing is just mind boggling. Why would you put your kid up there in the first place? Every time I see something like this I think of Michael Jackson dangling that kid out the window.

People should have to pass a minimum proficiency exam prior to breeding.



Absolutely, but you know they'll find reasons to say it's the Zoo's fault, even though that animal enclosure has existed for years and years without anyone falling in. This is like hot McDonald's coffee. You know it's hot, so handle with care.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:25 AM

View PostBadger Bob, on 05 November 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

Absolutely, but you know they'll find reasons to say it's the Zoo's fault, even though that animal enclosure has existed for years and years without anyone falling in. This is like hot McDonald's coffee. You know it's hot, so handle with care.

The Zoo is probably bound by minimum safety standards for fences around enclosures. My thinking is that provided they were in compliance, they should be ok.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:36 AM

View Postbillvill, on 05 November 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

The Zoo is probably bound by minimum safety standards for fences around enclosures. My thinking is that provided they were in compliance, they should be ok.


Yeah, we'll see. I'm not sure what rules and regulations they'd have to meet and if they're legally compelled to adher to anything. But you know some lawyer or lawyers is going to be jumping at a chance to grab this case because they see big bucks. Making this worse if the fact that these dogs escaped once and that will call the overall design into question.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:03 AM

View PostBadger Bob, on 05 November 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

Yeah, we'll see. I'm not sure what rules and regulations they'd have to meet and if they're legally compelled to adher to anything. But you know some lawyer or lawyers is going to be jumping at a chance to grab this case because they see big bucks. Making this worse if the fact that these dogs escaped once and that will call the overall design into question.


I would think so too. Usually whenever someone does something stupid, insurance rates go up, training costs go up, modifications have to be made, inspectors hired...
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:13 AM

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They'll also be focus on the one dog they put down. The police are questioning whether it had signs of previous agressive behavior. I'm sure he was just the alpha male. And this is a zoo with animals that are normally in the wild and they can't breed out their instincts.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:04 AM

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They'll also be focus on the one dog they put down. The police are questioning whether it had signs of previous agressive behavior. I'm sure he was just the alpha male. And this is a zoo with animals that are normally in the wild and they can't breed out their instincts.

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They're ******* wild animals. What did they expect would happen? Of course they exhibited aggressive behavior, they're predators.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 10:57 AM

View Postbillvill, on 05 November 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

The Zoo is probably bound by minimum safety standards for fences around enclosures. My thinking is that provided they were in compliance, they should be ok.


For those not familiar for the enclosure, here is a video/pic of the exhibit.

NBC News

The mother should have never lifted the child on the railing. There is netting below the railing that a small child can look through instead of putting him on the rail. Or at least hold the child in her arms.

Just like someone getting killed standing up on a roller coaster. Morons.

Their will probably be a lawsuit and the zoo will pay, but no how no way was it the zoo's fault.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:03 AM

View Postbillvill, on 05 November 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

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They're ******* wild animals. What did they expect would happen? Of course they exhibited aggressive behavior, they're predators.

This reminds me of the time that idiot teen climbed into the polar bear exhibit and was mauled to death.

The zoo shot and killed the polar bear trying to save the idiot's life.
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